{"id":99466,"date":"2025-09-15T07:58:01","date_gmt":"2025-09-15T07:58:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/15\/hoisted-from-comments-nuclear-waste-is-a-myth-the-us-promoted\/"},"modified":"2025-09-15T07:58:01","modified_gmt":"2025-09-15T07:58:01","slug":"hoisted-from-comments-nuclear-waste-is-a-myth-the-us-promoted","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/15\/hoisted-from-comments-nuclear-waste-is-a-myth-the-us-promoted\/","title":{"rendered":"Hoisted from Comments: &#8220;Nuclear Waste Is a Myth the US Promoted&#8230;.&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p>Yves here. In Friday\u2019s Links, reader Michaelmas made some important observations about the US nuclear fuel model, which does only one cycle and thus produces vastly more waste than necessary. That has been a feature as opposed to a bug. Further, he contends that reprocessing plus current technology like laser isotope separation can eliminate nuclear waste.  <\/p>\n<p>Admittedly, nuclear waste is not the only reason environmentalists oppose nuclear energy. They also point to catastrophe risk and hazards to wildlife from water cooling processes, which are <a href=\"https:\/\/www.ucs.org\/resources\/water-nuclear\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"nofollow\">more pronounced for nuclear plants than other water-cooled power facilities<\/a>. <\/p>\n<p>As many of you know, as AI and data center power demands are soaring, tech titans have been talking up nuclear power as a low-emission solution. However, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.goldmansachs.com\/insights\/articles\/is-nuclear-energy-the-answer-to-ai-data-centers-power-consumption\" rel=\"nofollow\" target=\"_blank\">a Goldman Sachs report from January<\/a> argued its role would be limited, in part due to staffing issues:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>While renewables have the potential to meet most of the increased power needs from data centers at some times of day, they don\u2019t produce power consistently enough to be the only energy source for data centers\u2026.<\/p>\n<p>Nuclear energy has almost zero carbon dioxide emissions \u2014 although it does create nuclear waste that needs to be managed carefully. But the scarcity of specialized labor, the challenges of obtaining permits, and the difficulty of sourcing sufficient uranium all pose a challenge to the development of new nuclear power plants\u2026<\/p>\n<p>How much will nuclear power increase?<\/p>\n<p>Recent contracts for nuclear energy facilities along with signs of countries\u2019 greater appetite for nuclear power suggest a significant increase of investment in the next five years, and a corresponding rise in power supply in the 2030s.<\/p>\n<p>The proliferation of AI data centers has boosted investor confidence in future growth in electricity demand at the same time as big tech companies are looking for low-carbon reliable energy. This is leading to the de-mothballing of recently retired nuclear generators, as well as consideration for new larger-scale reactors.<\/p>\n<p>In the US alone, big tech companies have signed new contracts for more than 10 GW of possible new nuclear capacity in the last year, and Goldman Sachs Research sees potential for three plants to be brought online by 2030.<\/p>\n<p>What could help dispel US nuclear dependence on Russia for enrichment is a properly capable nuclear power industry that recycles nuclear fuel and is moving towards closing the nuclear fuel cycle.<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Mind you, yours truly has repeatedly called for radical conservation, as in greatly trying to reduce resource consumption, before climate-change-induced collapse forces it upon us. But that view has an even smaller audience now than Before AI.<\/p>\n<p>So one reason to discuss the fact that nuclear waste is a choice, not a necessity, is to try to persuade activists to demand nuclear waste-free new builds. If they can\u2019t stop them, and the political winds suggest not, the fallback is to demand a much safer implementation.<\/p>\n<p>Now to <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nakedcapitalism.com\/2025\/09\/links-9-12-2025.html#comment-4281292\" rel=\"nofollow\">the discussion by Michaelmas<\/a>, in Links 9\/12\/2025. I\u2019ve combined two comments:<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>Nuclear waste is a <em>myth<\/em> that the US promoted to justify its crappy once-through fuel cycle model, which it set up entirely for political and economic reasons. So when various folks here complain that they don\u2019t like nuclear power because \u2018we don\u2019t know how to get rid of the waste,\u2019 they\u2019re ignorantly repeating propaganda that the likes of the CIA have promoted.<\/p>\n<p>We DO know how to \u2018get rid of the waste.\u2019 Talk to anybody in the nuclear industry. If they\u2019re honest, they\u2019ll tell you the reason nobody\u2019s ever solved the problem of how to bury that \u2018waste\u2019 deep enough so it won\u2019t be a problem for several centuries or millenia is that nobody who knows anything realistically expects that \u2018waste\u2019 to stay in the ground because people will probably use it for fuel in the next one or two centuries.<\/p>\n<p>Because it\u2019s barely-used fuel. In the US once-through nuclear fuel cycle, merely 3% to 5% of the original uranium fuel\u2019s total energy content is extracted and used in the reactor before the fuel is discarded. Specifically, Uranium-235, the fissile isotope, comprises only about 0.7% of natural uranium, and enrichment boosts this to 3\u20135% for reactor use. After fission, a significant amount of U-238 remains.<\/p>\n<p>This isotope could be converted into plutonium-239 and reused in breeder or reprocessing cycles\u2014but in the US once-through model, it\u2019s discarded. So are other actinides formed during operation that also retain substantial energy potential, but aren\u2019t tapped unless reprocessing is done.<\/p>\n<p>In closed or advanced fuel cycles (e.g. MOX fuel, fast reactors), reprocessing raises total energy extraction to 60\u201390%, depending on the technology and number of recycles. Furthermore, with 21st century technology like laser isotope separation (LIS) \u2014<br \/>https:\/\/www.sciencedirect.com\/topics\/chemistry\/laser-isotope-separation<br \/>the remainder that can\u2019t be reprocessed for fuel can be transmuted. There\u2019s no need for any \u2018nuclear waste\u2019 to exist.<\/p>\n<p>Why does the US nuclear industry have its crappy nuclear power model? This is due to: \u2013<\/p>\n<p>[1.] The mid-20th century historical contingency that Admiral Rickover\u2019s nuclear submarine program developed the boiling water reactor model first and this military application was then ported over to civilian application, and the US has been incapable of moving on from this 75-year old technology;<\/p>\n<p>[2.] As always, the US government placed profitability for US corporations first, and discarding barely-used fuel as so-called waste without recycling seemingly promised greater profits for US energy corporations;<\/p>\n<p>[3.] The US wanted to maintain its nuclear hegemony as much as possible and be able to threaten other states who didn\u2019t have nuclear weapons, and reprocessing technologies are dual use \u2014 they\u2019re nuclear enrichment technologies, too.<\/p>\n<p>If you\u2019ll recall, in the 1970s and 80s the US beef with the French nuclear power industry industry was essentially that it did reprocessing and the US beef with the Iranian nuclear industry is that it\u2019ll permit enrichment now\u2026<\/p>\n<p>All flag-waving \u2014 yours and mine \u2014 aside, <em>the point<\/em> here is that had nuclear power been handled intelligently, and particularly had the US not implemented the nuclear policies it did both at home and abroad, then how much global climate forcing by CO\u2082 release could have been avoided?<\/p>\n<p>Let\u2019s suppose, specifically, that the world as a whole had moved to nuclear power along the model France implemented in the 1970s. France today generates around 70 percent of its electricity from nuclear, so it\u2019s one of the lowest per-capita CO\u2082 emitters among industrialized nations. One recent analysis I\u2019ve seen claims that France\u2019s nuclear program has prevented emissions equivalent to 28 times its total CO\u2082 output in 2023 over the past 47 years.<\/p>\n<p>Okay. Scaling that globally, if the world had followed France\u2019s lead starting in the 1970s or 1980s, we can estimate:<\/p>\n<p>Global electricity-related CO\u2082 emissions could have been slashed dramatically. Electricity generation accounts for roughly 40% of global CO\u2082 emissions. Including plant construction, nuclear emits some 4 grams of CO\u2082 per kWh, as compared to 400\u20131000 grams for coal and 200\u2013500 grams for gas. That\u2019s a 99 percent reduction in many cases.<\/p>\n<p>As the world has emitted over 1,700 gigatonnes of CO\u2082 since 1850, and about 1,000 gigatonnes since 1970, a nuclear-powered world could plausibly have avoided 300\u2013500 gigatonnes of that.<\/p>\n<p>In turn, given that the models suggest that every 1,000 gigatonne of CO\u2082 adds approx. 0.45 degrees C of warming, that means we might have avoided 0.13\u20130.23\u00b0C of warming, which is a substantial dent in the currently visible 1.2 degrees C rise.<\/p>\n<p>(Visible, because there\u2019s another 3 to 8 degrees of warming in the pipeline currently being masked by aerosol particulate release.)<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>So yet again, bad incentives and short-termism have become so deeply embedded that most who discuss nuclear power have little idea how and wasteful the US approach to nuclear power is. 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