{"id":99416,"date":"2025-09-14T06:53:18","date_gmt":"2025-09-14T06:53:18","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/14\/pilot-union-urges-faa-to-reject-rainmakers-drone-cloud-seeding-plan\/"},"modified":"2025-09-14T06:53:18","modified_gmt":"2025-09-14T06:53:18","slug":"pilot-union-urges-faa-to-reject-rainmakers-drone-cloud-seeding-plan","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/14\/pilot-union-urges-faa-to-reject-rainmakers-drone-cloud-seeding-plan\/","title":{"rendered":"Pilot union urges FAA to reject Rainmaker\u2019s drone cloud-seeding plan"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\" class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rainmaker Technology\u2019s bid <a href=\"https:\/\/www.regulations.gov\/document\/FAA-2025-1630-0004\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener nofollow\">to deploy<\/a> cloud-seeding flares on <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2025\/07\/14\/rainmaker-partners-with-atmo-to-squeeze-more-rain-from-clouds\/\">small drones<\/a> is being met by resistance from the airline pilots union, which has urged the Federal Aviation Administration to consider denying the startup\u2019s request unless it meets stricter safety guidelines.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The FAA\u2019s decision will signal how the regulator views weather modification by unmanned aerial systems going forward. Rainmaker\u2019s bet on small drones hangs in the balance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The Air Line Pilots Association (ALPA) told the FAA that Rainmaker\u2019s petition \u201cfails to demonstrate an equivalent level of safety\u201d and poses \u201can extreme safety risk.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, Rainmaker CEO Augustus Doricko said an email that all of the union\u2019s objections are based on only the public notice, rather than non-public documents submitted to the FAA that outline all of the company\u2019s safety data and risk mitigations. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rainmaker is seeking an exemption from rules that bar small drones from carrying hazardous materials. The startup filed in July, and the FAA has yet to rule. Instead, it issued a follow-up request for information, pressing for specifics on operations and safety.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In its filing, Rainmaker proposed using two flare types, one \u201cburn-in-place\u201d and the other ejectable, on its Elijah quadcopter, to disperse particles that stimulate precipitation. Elijah has a maximum altitude of 15,000 feet MSL (measured from sea level), which sits inside controlled airspace where commercial airliners routinely fly. Drones need permission from Air Traffic Control to fly inside this bubble. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rainmaker\u2019s petition says it will operate in Class G (uncontrolled) airspace unless otherwise authorized. ALPA notes the filing doesn\u2019t clearly state where flights would occur or what altitudes would be used. However, Doricko said the documents submitted to the FAA disclosed that in addition to the flights being constrained to a max altitude of 15,000 feet MSL, they will be conducted in airspace that is predetermined to be safe by aviation authorities, \u201cvoiding any reasonable concern about high altitude flight or airspace coordination.\u201d ALPA did not reply to TechCrunch\u2019s requests for comment.\u00a0<\/p>\n<div class=\"wp-block-techcrunch-inline-cta\">\n<div class=\"inline-cta__wrapper\">\n<p>Techcrunch event<\/p>\n<div class=\"inline-cta__content\">\n<p>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"inline-cta__location\">San Francisco<\/span><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"inline-cta__separator\">|<\/span><br \/>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<span class=\"inline-cta__date\">October 27-29, 2025<\/span>\n\t\t\t\t\t\t\t<\/p>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/p><\/div>\n<\/div>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The union also objects to the flares themselves, citing concerns about foreign object debris and fire safety. ALPA points out that the petition does not include trajectory modeling of the ejectable casings or analysis on the environmental impacts of chemical agents.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cRegarding their objection to the use of flares, independent bodies like this administration\u2019s EPA and multiple state departments of natural resources have studied the dispersion and environmental safety of materials used in cloud seeding for over 70 years and never found any adverse effect from cloud seeding,\u201d Doricko said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Sam Kim, Rainmaker\u2019s aviation regulatory manager, said the company respects the pilot\u2019s union and hopes to \u201ccontinue to strengthen our relationship with the organization,\u201d but claimed the objection \u201cshows a lack of understanding of why Rainmaker has filed for this exemption.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cOur use of flares in unmanned systems is solely for research purposes in a controlled flying environment and is not a part of our larger ongoing operations,\u201d Kim added.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Doricko said that a typical Rainmaker operation disperses 50-100 grams of silver iodide, and far less than that in a flight with flares, while one hour of flight of a commercial plane releases kilograms of uncombusted volatile organics, sulfur oxides, and soot \u2013 significantly more material than a Rainmaker op.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cRainmaker is interested in doing the best, responsible atmospheric research and is thus comparing flares to our proprietary aerosol dispersion system that will replace flares and exclusively emit silver iodide. ALPA\u2019s objection to this exemplifies their limited understanding of our CONOP, all of which contains extensive risk mitigations in the non-public docs that\u00a0the FAA is reviewing now,\u201d Doricko said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cRegarding ALPA\u2019s concerns about coordination with aviation authorities and airspace, our flight operations consist of broadcasting signals, intentional coordination with local ATC, certified pilots, and a collision avoidance system that involves electronic and physical observers,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, Rainmaker says the flights will occur over rural areas and over properties owned by private landlords \u201cwith whom Rainmaker has developed close working relationships.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cloud-seeding already happens today, largely in the western U.S., with crewed airplanes flown in coordination with state agencies. Ski resorts commission the operations to help keep their runs white, and irrigation and water districts fly them to build snowpack in the winter to help feed their reservoirs during the spring melt.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The general practice of cloud seeding dates back to the 1950s. By spraying small particles into certain clouds, scientists found they could induce precipitation. Typically, cloud-seeding operations use silver iodide for the particles, mostly because they mimic the shape of ice crystals.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When a silver iodide particle bumps into droplets of water that are super-cooled, they cause the droplet to rapidly freeze because its water is already below the freezing point. Once the ice crystal forms, it can grow quickly if conditions are right, faster than a liquid water droplet would in similar circumstances. Plus, the rapid growth helps the crystals stick around longer than a water droplet, which might evaporate before it has a chance to fall as precipitation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Rainmaker\u2019s twist \u2014 doing this work with drones instead of pilots \u2014 could prove safer in the longer term. The company points out that the flight profiles are tightly bounded, overseen by a remote pilot and trained crews, over rural areas, with other safety checks in place.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">What happens next hinges on whether the FAA thinks those mitigations are sufficient. However it\u2019s decided, the agency\u2019s response will likely set the tone for novel cloud-seeding approaches.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><em>9\/13\/2025: The story has been updated to include Rainmaker\u2019s comments from Augustus Doricko, founder and CEO, and Sam Kim, Rainmaker\u2019s aviation regulatory manager<\/em>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2025\/09\/13\/pilot-union-urges-faa-to-reject-rainmakers-drone-cloud-seeding-plan\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rainmaker Technology\u2019s bid to deploy cloud-seeding flares on small drones is being met by resistance from the airline pilots union, which has urged the Federal<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":99417,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[149],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-99416","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-business"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99416","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=99416"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/99416\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/99417"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=99416"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=99416"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=99416"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}