{"id":89917,"date":"2025-01-20T01:41:01","date_gmt":"2025-01-20T01:41:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/20\/from-recruiting-for-palantir-to-landing-a-plane-on-highway-85-meet-defense-techs-wildest-power-broker\/"},"modified":"2025-01-20T01:41:01","modified_gmt":"2025-01-20T01:41:01","slug":"from-recruiting-for-palantir-to-landing-a-plane-on-highway-85-meet-defense-techs-wildest-power-broker","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2025\/01\/20\/from-recruiting-for-palantir-to-landing-a-plane-on-highway-85-meet-defense-techs-wildest-power-broker\/","title":{"rendered":"From recruiting for Palantir to landing a plane on Highway 85: meet defense tech\u2019s wildest power broker"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\" class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 2023, defense tech recruiter Peterson Conway<strong> <\/strong>VIII pulled up to the offices of nuclear fusion startup Fuse in a black Suburban, donning his signature cowboy hat. He picked up a recent Fuse hire and proceeded to regale her with stories of his old recruiting days. One story involved prostitutes attending a recruiting event (\u201cnot for sex,\u201d Conway clarified to TechCrunch).\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The new hire was not happy. \u201cI thought I told it in a funny way,\u201d Conway sighed, admitting he was being \u201can a\u2013hole.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Fuse founder JC Btaiche caught wind of the conversation and agreed, promptly firing Conway \u2014 although Btaiche told TechCrunch that telling the prostitution story wasn\u2019t the only inappropriate thing that Conway had done.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But Conway, who has become one of the defense tech industry\u2019s biggest behind-the-scenes power brokers, didn\u2019t give up on Fuse. Conway has recruited for some of the buzziest defense and hard tech firms in Silicon Valley over the last decade, like Palantir and Mach Industries. He spent nearly half a decade doing recruitment for Joe Lonsdale\u2019s venture firm 8VC and for its portfolio companies, and since last year, he has been the head of talent at venture firm A*.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So even after being dismissed, Conway continued to pitch candidates to Btaiche and woo prospects with flights in his private plane or offers to \u201cgo blow s\u2014 up out in the desert,\u201d Conway said. After a few months, Fuse reinstated Conway. He has now recruited more than seven people to Fuse, including Fuse\u2019s chief strategy officer, Laura Thomas, a former CIA officer.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In many ways, Conway is a stand-in for the whole industry: rich, determined, prone to telling unbelievable stories, and, by all accounts, brilliant. According to the dozen people TC interviewed for this story, Conway is wildly successful at luring very talented people away from stable jobs and into startup life. \u201cThere\u2019s a line between crazy and genius,\u201d Btaiche said. \u201cAnd I think he\u2019s just on that line.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As defense tech funding soared to <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/11\/20\/led-by-anduril-defense-tech-funding-sets-a-new-record-this-year\/\">almost $3 billion<\/a> last year, Conway is ready to convince the next generation to help make new age nuclear reactors or AI-powered weapons.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cThere\u2019s a whole community of young people in the Valley, often working jobs in the defense sector or in national security or on very ambitious, difficult things,\u201d said Gregory Dorman, a recent Princeton graduate who worked with entrepreneur and A* partner Kevin Hartz on his new security startup Sauron, thanks to Conway\u2019s introduction. \u201cAnd they\u2019re there because of Peterson.\u201d<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"5000\" height=\"3333\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2938747\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg 5000w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=150,100 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=300,200 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=768,512 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=680,453 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=1200,800 1200w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=1280,853 1280w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=430,287 430w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=720,480 720w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=900,600 900w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=800,533 800w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=1536,1024 1536w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=2048,1365 2048w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=668,445 668w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=563,375 563w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=926,617 926w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/ET_00720.jpg?resize=708,472 708w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 5000px) 100vw, 5000px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><span class=\"wp-block-image__credits\"><strong>Image Credits:<\/strong>Peterson Conway<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-does-not-comply-with-safety-regulations\">\u201cDoes not comply\u201d with safety regulations<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Conway\u2019s signature move is to take candidates up in his tiny plane. \u201cI like to joke that I make them sick until they accept the terms of our deals,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I first met him at an airport in San Carlos, California, shortly before I climbed into his tiny two-seater plane, purchased with a loan from <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/09\/01\/palantirs-cto-and-13th-employee-has-become-a-secret-weapon-for-valley-defense-tech-startups\/\">Palantir CTO <\/a>Shyam Sankar. A small sign in the cockpit warned me: \u201cThis aircraft is an experimental light-sport aircraft and does not comply with federal safety regulations for standard aircraft.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A few minutes later, we were soaring over the shimmering San Francisco Bay as Conway recounted his fable-like life story. His father, Peterson Conway VII, dodged the draft, sold LSD in Tokyo, and eventually moved to Afghanistan in the \u201970s with Conway\u2019s mother, a Mormon school teacher. After a series of escapades across the Middle East and Africa, they moved to Carmel to raise Conway and his brother, but eventually divorced.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">\u201cMy dad threw himself off there,\u201d Conway said nonchalantly as we soared over the Golden Gate Bridge. He then explained that the attempted suicide was unsuccessful. His father was caught by the nets and is alive and well today, selling antiques in his Carmel shop.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Conway rebelled against his father by briefly pursuing normalcy, attending Dartmouth to study economics. But after college, in the early 2000s, he found himself becoming a recruiter.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In Conway\u2019s version of events, he was riding his motorcycle around San Francisco, a cowboy in search of office space. He spotted a warehouse with a ramp, rode onto it, and ran straight into Hartz. At the time, Hartz was in the early stages of building Xoom, a fintech service for international money transfers that was eventually bought by PayPal.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Conway said Hartz asked him if he had any skills. \u201cNone,\u201d Conway answered. \u201cBut I can bring lunches. I\u2019m a decent writer. I had an Airstream trailer \u2014 I\u2019m like, we can go surfing.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hartz laughed when I asked him about the story, saying, \u201cThat is all entirely false.\u201d According to Hartz, Conway simply rented office space in the same building and that\u2019s how he started recruiting for Xoom and, later, the broader PayPal crowd.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When PayPal co-founder Peter Thiel launched Palantir in 2003, Conway was in the right place at the right time and began recruiting for the firm. Conway apparently had no official title at the defense company, \u201dbut was \u2018just Peterson,\u2019\u201d like a defense tech \u201cmononymous artist in the style of Prince or Madonna,\u201d joked Gabe Rosen, 8VC\u2019s resident humanities scholar who worked with Conway at Palantir.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Palantir sent Conway across the world to build out its international teams. According to Conway, the company wanted employees with an \u201cinternal compass and conviction,\u201d people who had grappled with the values they were raised with and paved their own path.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For example, Conway claimed he would get missives like \u201cfind me a Jew that married a Christian from the outback of Australia that was gay.\u201d Palantir had no comment.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Conway was known for getting recruits\u2019 attention by sending handwritten letters with wax seals. His methods were successful, landing people like Michael Leiter, the former director of the National Counterterrorism Center, and many of Palantir\u2019s international hires.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-unconventional-methods-nbsp\">Unconventional methods\u00a0<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Last summer, Conway and his father flew to the Mojave desert in Hartz\u2019s plane, borrowed for the occasion. Like some kind of American Dynamism mirage, they saw a gaggle of young men mounting a drone to the back of a truck.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It was a testing session for Mach Industries, a weapons company founded by Ethan Thornton when he was 19 years old. Mach is one of the handful of defense and hardware companies that has Conway recruited for as head of talent at A*. Mach has since raised over <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/10\/04\/defense-startup-mach-industries-closes-79m-series-a-at-335m-valuation\/\">$80 million <\/a>from investors like Bedrock and Sequoia Capital.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While those men set up orange cones and explosive equipment for their engineering tests, Conway took people for trips in Hartz\u2019s plane. \u201cHe hit the ground so hard, so many times, landing in the Mojave,\u201d Hartz sighed. \u201cEverything came loose.\u201d Conway denied Hartz\u2019s account, saying the plane simply \u201cgot pretty dirty\u201d and he lost a window covering.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to Conway, he recruited SpaceX alum Gabriela Hobe and Fasil Mulatu Kero, Mach\u2019s vice president of manufacturing and former Tesla employee. \u201cEthan has probably paid me over a million dollars to do what I do for him,\u201d Conway said, although he later denied that figure.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It seems like everyone in the defense tech industry has an eye-popping story about Conway.<strong> <\/strong>One time, after Conway ordered an Uber and hit it off with the driver, he surprised a founder by setting him up with a ride and telling the founder to interview the driver for a job.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Another time, Fuse founder Btaiche said Conway left a Porsche with the keys in it at the airport for a recruit, who was then a government contractor, to drive when he touched down. The company later clarified that it was a four-seater Porsche, loaned to the candidate so the company could save money on Ubers.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The candidate took the Porsche for their meetings and ended the day at Conway\u2019s home, a sprawling compound in the wealthy California coastal town Carmel-by-the-Sea, stuffed with his father\u2019s antiques and animal parts from hunting expeditions. Conway hosts regular dinners for candidates there (his father cooks), as well as, according to Conway, parties ranging from a birthday bash for Joe Lonsdale to a wedding for Sankar.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But Btaiche said Conway\u2019s real superpower isn\u2019t his stunts, but rather his ability to talk about \u201ccandidates in a more human way, rather than just looking at r\u00e9sum\u00e9s and credentials.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For Fuse hiring, Conway had Btaiche brainstorm what upbringing might create someone who can lead a team, or bring new ideas to the engineers; as a result, they\u2019ve scouted people from rural areas, people who grew up as athletes, and people who are obsessed with gaming.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As for winning candidates over, Btaiche said that Conway sells people on the imperative of defending America. \u201cIf you\u2019re working on something that is truly mission-driven,\u201d he said, \u201cI think Peterson can deliver that story.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Dorman, one of the people who had the Conway Experience, was a philosophy major at Princeton debating between careers in the Valley or New York when he met the famed recruiter. Conway persuaded him to choose the Valley. \u201cPeterson convinces people that there\u2019s actually a lot of adventure there,\u201d he said.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Conway has fashioned himself as something of a cowboy in the Valley for years, and now the rest of tech might have finally caught up. He applauds the current interest in American Dynamism, the term coined by Andreessen Horowitz for government-adjacent companies. \u201cIt is just perfect. It is right on the border of fanaticism,\u201d Conway said. \u201cIt\u2019s become its own religion.\u201d\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img loading=\"lazy\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"4032\" height=\"3024\" src=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?w=680\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-2938744\" srcset=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg 4032w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=150,113 150w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=300,225 300w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=768,576 768w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=680,510 680w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=1200,900 1200w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=1280,960 1280w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=430,323 430w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=720,540 720w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=900,675 900w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=800,600 800w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=1536,1152 1536w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=2048,1536 2048w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=668,501 668w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=500,375 500w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=823,617 823w, https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2025\/01\/IMG_7407.jpg?resize=708,531 708w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 4032px) 100vw, 4032px\"\/><figcaption class=\"wp-element-caption\"><span class=\"wp-block-image__credits\"><strong>Image Credits:<\/strong>Peterson Conway<\/span><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\" id=\"h-main-character-energy\">Main character energy<\/h2>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There\u2019s a common theme in how people describe Conway: a genius, an influential player in defense tech, and, at times, a liability.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For instance, a few days after I flew in his plane, he called me and asked, \u201cDid you see the news?\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The day before, Conway had taken a 6 a.m. flight from the Carmel area to Silicon Valley. In the early morning darkness, Conway failed to pull out a flashlight when he was checking his fuel gauge and, as a result, misread the gauge. \u201cI made an assumption that was entirely pilot error,\u201d he said. As he was flying, he realized he didn\u2019t have enough in the tank to make it to the nearest airport.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Conway regaled the story to me in mythical proportions: a fork in his path, a choice between good and evil. As he described it, he initially thought his best chance at living was to land on a sports field at a nearby school. \u201cI started freaking out that a kid was no match for a propeller,\u201d he said.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So he opted to land his plane on Highway 85, touching down toward oncoming traffic in hopes that it would be safer for drivers. Miraculously, his two-seater glided onto the concrete, leaving Conway and the surrounding cars unharmed.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Conway then warned me that I had been a hair\u2019s breadth away from a similar fate. \u201cIf we had flown any further, we would\u2019ve run out of gas,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That wasn\u2019t quite true; he told me later that he had flown the plane at least one time after our flight. But he painted our journey together in an existential light, making it unforgettable. After spending the day with him (and a subsequent two months fact-checking his many exaggerations), I learned that Conway is singular in his epic storytelling skills. That\u2019s why he gets hired by so many amazing companies. And fired. And then rehired once again.\u00a0<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As Dorman put it, \u201cHe\u2019s a super unconventional recruiter.\u201d Yet, he\u2019s also \u201cbetter than any other recruiter.\u201d\u00a0<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2025\/01\/19\/from-recruiting-for-palantir-to-landing-on-highway-85-meet-defense-techs-wildest-power-broker\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In 2023, defense tech recruiter Peterson Conway VIII pulled up to the offices of nuclear fusion startup Fuse in a black Suburban, donning his signature<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":89918,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[178],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-89917","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-tech"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/89917","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=89917"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/89917\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/89918"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=89917"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=89917"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=89917"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}