{"id":81450,"date":"2024-07-02T18:08:08","date_gmt":"2024-07-02T18:08:08","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/02\/x-weighs-adding-a-downvote-button-to-replies-but-it-doesnt-want-to-emulate-reddit\/"},"modified":"2024-07-02T18:08:08","modified_gmt":"2024-07-02T18:08:08","slug":"x-weighs-adding-a-downvote-button-to-replies-but-it-doesnt-want-to-emulate-reddit","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/2024\/07\/02\/x-weighs-adding-a-downvote-button-to-replies-but-it-doesnt-want-to-emulate-reddit\/","title":{"rendered":"X weighs adding a downvote button to replies \u2014 but it doesn&#8217;t want to emulate Reddit"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div>\n<p id=\"speakable-summary\" class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">X, formerly Twitter, could be bringing back a downvote feature for posts \u2014 something it had <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2021\/07\/21\/twitter-tests-reddit-style-upvote-and-downvote-buttons\/\">previously tested back in 2021<\/a>, ahead of Elon Musk\u2019s <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2022\/10\/27\/elon-musk-bought-twitter\/\">acquisition of the social network<\/a>. At the time of the original experiment, Twitter had tested both upvoting and downvoting buttons, similar to how users can vote on the social forums site Reddit. But now, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/aaronp613\/status\/1808159074510389376\">code references found<\/a> in the X iOS app indicate that the company could be considering adding downvotes for replies only to improve how they\u2019re ranked.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The code was first spotted by reverse engineer Aaron Perris, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/aaronp613\/status\/1808159074510389376\">@aaronp613 on X,<\/a> who regularly uncovers new app features ahead of launch; the code references were discovered in Tuesday\u2019s iOS app update, Perris told TechCrunch.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"\/>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Finding a reference in an app\u2019s code about a new feature or functionality doesn\u2019t necessarily mean the company is planning to bring the feature to the public. Companies, and particularly social media apps, internally test new features all the time before deciding whether to expand a project or scrap it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">However, in this case, at least one X engineer as well as X owner Elon Musk have now commented on the possible addition. <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">According to<a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/www.linkedin.com\/in\/jaybaxter\/\"> Jay Baxter,<\/a> senior staff machine learning engineer at X who works on Community Notes, the idea to leverage a negative signal could be useful, as it\u2019s something that works for X\u2019s crowdsourced fact-checking feature, too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">He explains that if you simply added up all the negative signals, you could get a \u201chivemind like Reddit.\u201d But one way to improve this system would be to only downrank those posts that had negative ratings from people who typically disagree, <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/_jaybaxter_\/status\/1808169555145249018\">he said on X.<\/a><\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is similar to the system X uses with Community Notes, a feature that requires consensus among people who don\u2019t typically agree before its fact-checks go live.<\/p>\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<blockquote class=\"twitter-tweet\" data-width=\"500\" data-dnt=\"true\">\n<p lang=\"en\" dir=\"ltr\">Community Notes wouldn\u2019t work well without negative rating signal.<\/p>\n<p>But you have to be smart about how you use them. If you naively add them all up, you\u2019ll get a hivemind like Reddit.<\/p>\n<p>One way: only downrank if you see negative ratings from people who typically disagree <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/t.co\/YfX7Fpm8ka\">https:\/\/t.co\/YfX7Fpm8ka<\/a><\/p>\n<p>\u2014 Jay Baxter (@_jaybaxter_) <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/_jaybaxter_\/status\/1808169555145249018?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw\">July 2, 2024<\/a><\/p><\/blockquote>\n<\/div>\n<\/figure>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">While Baxter didn\u2019t specifically confirm that downvotes were in development, he said that Community Notes relies on private ratings to avoid a \u201chivemind,\u201d and that the private rating data was released anonymously after 48 hours to make the ratings public without \u201cpoisoning the rating process\u201d itself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Musk also <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/elonmusk\/status\/1808176907214639187\">chimed in on the thread<\/a> with a one-word comment: \u201cTrue.\u201d <\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Using a consensus-building algorithm to rank posts could help X highlight the better replies in long threads, and could inspire other companies to use similar tools on their platforms. Already, X\u2019s Community Notes feature has inspired YouTube to test its own version, simply called Notes. In a day and age where people don\u2019t always agree on the truth, it\u2019s a way to center what \u201cmost people\u201d agree on as the accepted fact, while still citing sources. But it\u2019s managed by the social network\u2019s users, not by a central authority.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Other social startups are exploring different ways to moderate their communities, however. Bluesky, for instance, <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2023\/12\/01\/bluesky-rolls-out-automated-moderation-tools-plus-user-and-moderation-lists\/\">is experimenting with composable moderation<\/a>, where users can subscribe to their <a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/03\/12\/bluesky-launches-ozone-a-tool-that-lets-users-create-and-run-their-own-independent-moderation-services\/\">own moderation service providers<\/a> to customize the app to their liking \u2014 even layering one service on top of another.<\/p>\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Downvotes may not be the only change coming to X. <a rel=\"nofollow\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/aaronp613\/status\/1808157538510164360\">Another post from Perris now floating around X <\/a>shows a user interface that hides engagement buttons, such as the \u201cLike\u201d and \u201cRepost\u201d buttons, by default in favor of a new gesture-based menu to access these and other actions.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/platform.twitter.com\/widgets.js\" charset=\"utf-8\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/techcrunch.com\/2024\/07\/02\/x-weighs-adding-a-downvote-button-to-replies-but-it-doesnt-want-to-emulate-reddit\/\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>X, formerly Twitter, could be bringing back a downvote feature for posts \u2014 something it had previously tested back in 2021, ahead of Elon Musk\u2019s<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":81451,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"_monsterinsights_skip_tracking":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_active":false,"_monsterinsights_sitenote_note":"","_monsterinsights_sitenote_category":0,"footnotes":""},"categories":[178],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-81450","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-tech"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/81450","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=81450"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/81450\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/81451"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=81450"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=81450"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/neclink.com\/index.php\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=81450"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}